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matt

You say, "Sony, Panasonic, Avid, Grass Valley, and the BBC...are actually already using MXF as an integral part of their product lines." What do you mean by integral exactly? Does that mean that these folks are also turning around and investing in the R&D of MXF or are they simply using a cheap open source solution for certain tasks? I'm not arguing the potential quality of MXF, but just curious as to how exactly onboard such major players really are.

MattGeller

Panasonic: The future of their acquisition strategy is P2, which uses MXF exclusively as the on-card file format. Currently, 3 of their cameras are using P2/MXF, with many more to come.

Sony: In all current XDCAM and XDCAM HD products, MXF is used as the exclusive file format. Subsequently, all related gear, such as XDCAM "decks" and field editing equipment work with MXF files natively. Lastly, MXF is used as the proxy file format for IP-transfered shot lists from the field to the studio.

Grass Valley: The new Infinity series of "IP-based" cameras use ubiquitous SD cards or a little Zip-like hard drive called the "Rev." MXF, once again, is the exclusive file format for the media, and is used with the field playback/editing "decks."

Quantum: Their new SDLT tape drives use MXF as the file format for the archive of tapes, whether the original file format was MXF or not. This enables users to search the contents of a tape via the MXF metadata, which allows the viewing of thumbnails of video files, for example.

BBC: The "Creative Desktop," which is the BBC's specification for their worldwide pure-digital workflow for all of their creative teams, calls for MXF as the primary file format for acquisition, editing, finishing and storage.

SMPTE: The MXF format was standardized by SMPTE in 2004 (377M - 408M)

The above details express how integral MXF is to these companies. Not all of them were integral to the development of the standard, but now that the standard is, well, standardized, there's not much more R&D to do other than understand how to access the other guy's essences and metadata.

The point I'm making is that with very little marketing effort, and in fact just using the atmosphere in the industry right now, QuickTime can start to be perceived as a proprietary file format in very short order.

As has happened many times before, Apple's foresight into creating workflows that use ubiquitous exchange formats (look at how early and quickly they embraced MPEG-4, AAC & H.264, among others) is actually incenting competing manufacturers to do the same. MXF is gaining such ground, in my opinion, because it simply isn't QuickTime and can do many (but not nearly all) of the things that QuickTime can do.

Eric Bocaneanu

It seems that Apple is ready to get on the bandwagen of MXF, finally. It is using technology from MOG Solutions (of theScribe fame) for their own solution for OSX. Interestingly, MOG curently has software only for PC.

http://www.mog-solutions.com/catalogo_noticias.php?ID=56

brendani

Something not mentioned in this analysis is that, while a lot of major players are jumping on the MXF bandwagon, they are all only doing so with regard to the STORAGE side of the equation. You don't see any of those companies talking about natively editing MXF files, using them during production or for any other use except to store data and metadata.

Once After Effects, Final Cut Pro and other commonly used post-production apps can handle MXF files natively, then you will see Quicktime in a "defensive" posture. Until that time, you still have to convert the MXF to Quicktime in order to even use the files.

john  Vutech

having a hard time converting some solitary avid mxf files to quicktime can't even get them to ingest in avid express pro
they are hd codec any clues?

what does one do with non native p2 mfx
are there converision apps>that are affordable

thanks

john

Mike

FYI there is third party software out there that will let you edit in FCP from your P2 or server without having to crunch back and forth. It's by Softron called mxf converter. I haven't used it because it doesn't translate 377m to QT. Anyone know of anything that will?
thanks
Mike

mister t

check this hot stuff:

http://mxf4mac.com/products/mfx4qt/

Maria

I've been handed a hard disk full of MXF files and I can't open them at all. Any suggestions for free or affordable conversion tools that'll work on a Mac? Ideally, I'd like to convert them to low res (480x270) QuickTime for logging.

Chris Vermaak

http://mxf4mac.com/products/mfx4qt/

Seems to be a interesting solution to MXF files not opening directly in FCP from vendors like Omneon however I think Apple has to wake up and smell the coffee and unify MXF as a compatible container for its products, including QuickTime.

Damn betamax and VHS again only the container is virtual in this case.
Chris

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